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	<title>Comments on: Getting the J-O-B Part 4: Contacts in the Industry</title>
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		<title>By: Karen J Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/03/16/contacts-in-the-animation-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-7563</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen J Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, like what? 
I can&#039;t really give out names and addresses... :)
K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, like what?<br />
I can&#8217;t really give out names and addresses&#8230; <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /><br />
K</p>
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		<title>By: Elvira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elvira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to know details</description>
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		<title>By: KJL</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/03/16/contacts-in-the-animation-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>KJL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debi - all great things you&#039;re doing to promote yourself. Good on ya for getting &#039;out there&#039;. For film it can be a slightly different battle. I will welcome your comments when I finally get around to the &#039;free&#039; post. Save &#039;em up!

Todd - Welcome back. :) Over time I guess you learn who to help out and when they may just be taking advantage. That&#039;s some great advice about using your talents to really help those that can appreciate it (that&#039;s key and the Karma is wonderful). As opposed to someone just using you that doesn&#039;t put any value on your talent. Thanks for your contribution!
-K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debi &#8211; all great things you&#8217;re doing to promote yourself. Good on ya for getting &#8216;out there&#8217;. For film it can be a slightly different battle. I will welcome your comments when I finally get around to the &#8216;free&#8217; post. Save &#8216;em up!</p>
<p>Todd &#8211; Welcome back. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' />  Over time I guess you learn who to help out and when they may just be taking advantage. That&#8217;s some great advice about using your talents to really help those that can appreciate it (that&#8217;s key and the Karma is wonderful). As opposed to someone just using you that doesn&#8217;t put any value on your talent. Thanks for your contribution!<br />
-K</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Jacobsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Jacobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All great points, Karen.  You&#039;re a smart one.

I was thinking about saying something regarding personal favors outside of work--virtually every single one of my very best contacts has provided one in return for one, and I the same--but it probably goes without saying that it can come back and bite you in the ass.  (Yes, it&#039;s happened a couple of times.)

However, if a situation warrants, my close colleagues and I don&#039;t  hesitate doing something &quot;non-professional&quot; for co-workers or industry habitues like helping them paint murals for their kids&#039; schools, etc.  We find this kind of stuff goes a long way in establishing relationships, especially in a city like L.A. that can be kind of cold and cruel...and we may not get to the top of the heap like some others, but we do sleep well.

And Debi:  I knocked on doors, too.  I didn&#039;t know anyone where I went to school that wanted to get into animation.  Keep at it, and make your contacts where you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All great points, Karen.  You&#8217;re a smart one.</p>
<p>I was thinking about saying something regarding personal favors outside of work&#8211;virtually every single one of my very best contacts has provided one in return for one, and I the same&#8211;but it probably goes without saying that it can come back and bite you in the ass.  (Yes, it&#8217;s happened a couple of times.)</p>
<p>However, if a situation warrants, my close colleagues and I don&#8217;t  hesitate doing something &#8220;non-professional&#8221; for co-workers or industry habitues like helping them paint murals for their kids&#8217; schools, etc.  We find this kind of stuff goes a long way in establishing relationships, especially in a city like L.A. that can be kind of cold and cruel&#8230;and we may not get to the top of the heap like some others, but we do sleep well.</p>
<p>And Debi:  I knocked on doors, too.  I didn&#8217;t know anyone where I went to school that wanted to get into animation.  Keep at it, and make your contacts where you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Debi</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/03/16/contacts-in-the-animation-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-368</link>
		<dc:creator>Debi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we get a side order of fries too?

I&#039;ve made contacts a number of ways.  I&#039;ve joined the local Women in Film group.  I send out blind inquire letters to any production company I find that I&#039;m intrested in, and do post card mailings. I&#039;m not sure how well it&#039;s working, but I&#039;ve put several ads in Filmmaker magazine.  Also, I&#039;ve made contacts from working free/low paying gigs.  I&#039;ve yet to be burned (knocks on wood, crosses fingers), but it also hasn&#039;t lead to any big job yet.

There are some big warning signs in how ads are worded as what to stay away from.  I can expand on that if you want on your rant..er, friendly advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we get a side order of fries too?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made contacts a number of ways.  I&#8217;ve joined the local Women in Film group.  I send out blind inquire letters to any production company I find that I&#8217;m intrested in, and do post card mailings. I&#8217;m not sure how well it&#8217;s working, but I&#8217;ve put several ads in Filmmaker magazine.  Also, I&#8217;ve made contacts from working free/low paying gigs.  I&#8217;ve yet to be burned (knocks on wood, crosses fingers), but it also hasn&#8217;t lead to any big job yet.</p>
<p>There are some big warning signs in how ads are worded as what to stay away from.  I can expand on that if you want on your rant..er, friendly advice.</p>
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		<title>By: KJL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, a post is brewing about working for free. Not too much of a rant because I haven&#039;t really been burned myself. It&#039;s just what I see out there and stories I have heard from others.

Just some friendly advice with a side order of rant. ;)

Thanks for your non-school perspective. How have you made your contacts? Adrien will have a different take on things too. It&#039;ll be up tomorrow.
-K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a post is brewing about working for free. Not too much of a rant because I haven&#8217;t really been burned myself. It&#8217;s just what I see out there and stories I have heard from others.</p>
<p>Just some friendly advice with a side order of rant. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif\' alt=\';)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for your non-school perspective. How have you made your contacts? Adrien will have a different take on things too. It&#8217;ll be up tomorrow.<br />
-K</p>
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		<title>By: Debi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why am I feeling a big rant brewing from you about work-for-free jobs? ;)

Great info, as always.  And as someone who skipped the art school, I can say trying to find contacts on your own is a very tough path.</description>
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<p>Great info, as always.  And as someone who skipped the art school, I can say trying to find contacts on your own is a very tough path.</p>
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