Comments on: “The Beat”: When Silence is Golden http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/ Visual Storytelling Insights, Tips and Advice for Anyone Who\'s Interested Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:58:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bookmarks about Southpark http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-4758 Bookmarks about Southpark Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:15:10 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=128#comment-4758 [...] - bookmarked by 2 members originally found by mrsadowski on 2008-08-03 “The Beat”: When Silence is Golden http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/ - bookmarked by 4 members [...]

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]]> By: Karen J Lloyd http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-3579 Karen J Lloyd Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:09:57 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=128#comment-3579 Hey, boarding singing characters can be fun too! I love a good musical montage. :) (emphasis on 'good') K Hey, boarding singing characters can be fun too!
I love a good musical montage. \':)\' (emphasis on ‘good’)
K

]]> By: Lorin http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-3544 Lorin Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:56:23 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=128#comment-3544 That's a good point. Working on a project with fewer resources than a large-scale feature is very beneficial. Your focus remains on the character's performance and the narrative as apposed to the spectacle. I've also boarded and designed tv movies and commercials and must say that they were probably some of the more fulfilling productions BECAUSE they had limited time and resources were you had to make the character's sing (not literally, thankfully). The best needed to come out on the first try. That’s a good point. Working on a project with fewer resources than a large-scale feature is very beneficial. Your focus remains on the character’s performance and the narrative as apposed to the spectacle.

I’ve also boarded and designed tv movies and commercials and must say that they were probably some of the more fulfilling productions BECAUSE they had limited time and resources were you had to make the character’s sing (not literally, thankfully). The best needed to come out on the first try.

]]> By: Karen J Lloyd http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-3532 Karen J Lloyd Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:02:01 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=128#comment-3532 Exactly. Features are a much more collaborative effort. I'm sure there's lots of back and forth with that 'organic' approach. I've never worked on a feature film myself (hence all the advice about TV animation :) ). Except for direct-to-DVD movies. Which were boarded the same way as a TV show....all by myself (with the director having the final say). It's very different for TV. You're pretty much on your own and have to communicate a show to a bunch of folks you never see (or talk to) after you hand it off. So it better be *clear* to anyone looking at it. That's why I think if you can board for 2D TV, you can board for anything...it might be the hardest. It has the most limitations with the most posing (and the tight schedules!). :) K Exactly. Features are a much more collaborative effort. I’m sure there’s lots of back and forth with that ‘organic’ approach.

I’ve never worked on a feature film myself (hence all the advice about TV animation \':)\' ). Except for direct-to-DVD movies. Which were boarded the same way as a TV show….all by myself (with the director having the final say).

It’s very different for TV. You’re pretty much on your own and have to communicate a show to a bunch of folks you never see (or talk to) after you hand it off. So it better be *clear* to anyone looking at it.

That’s why I think if you can board for 2D TV, you can board for anything…it might be the hardest. It has the most limitations with the most posing (and the tight schedules!). \':)\'
K

]]> By: Lorin http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-3530 Lorin Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:27:19 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=128#comment-3530 In my experience doing previz animation my team and I worked hand-in-hand with the storyboard artists; it became very fluid and organic, acutally. The boarders would come up with a scene; we'd animate it and develop some alternate scenarios that would give them a new direction to take the flow of action or pacing (which was usually in our court). Of course, this was during feature development; kinda different from the commercial or tv animation world. In my experience doing previz animation my team and I worked hand-in-hand with the storyboard artists; it became very fluid and organic, acutally. The boarders would come up with a scene; we’d animate it and develop some alternate scenarios that would give them a new direction to take the flow of action or pacing (which was usually in our court). Of course, this was during feature development; kinda different from the commercial or tv animation world.

]]> By: Karen J Lloyd http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-3523 Karen J Lloyd Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:00:19 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=128#comment-3523 @ Lorin - thanks again and yeah, I'm working on it! I want some video goodness on here too. :) @ Pete - Yes, this more detailed stuff is directed more for TV animation since it usually IS sent overseas. You really need all that posing to get the cartoon you really want. I would say in feature films the posing may be less so. Those board artists work out the story and add the main acting beats, but they probably leave a lot to the in-house animators. They know who they're working with and what they can do. And they get more time to animate the scenes. In TV it's go, go, go, get it done! And board artists do 'crappy little thumbnail' planning too. At least they should. ;) Thanks for dropping by! K @ Lorin – thanks again and yeah, I’m working on it! I want some video goodness on here too. \':)\'

@ Pete – Yes, this more detailed stuff is directed more for TV animation since it usually IS sent overseas. You really need all that posing to get the cartoon you really want.

I would say in feature films the posing may be less so. Those board artists work out the story and add the main acting beats, but they probably leave a lot to the in-house animators.

They know who they’re working with and what they can do. And they get more time to animate the scenes. In TV it’s go, go, go, get it done!

And board artists do ‘crappy little thumbnail’ planning too. At least they should. \';)\'

Thanks for dropping by!
K

]]> By: Lorin http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-3512 Lorin Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:45:55 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=128#comment-3512 Hey, I just found out that Handbrake works on PC as well (http://handbrake.fr/?article=download). Use that instead. Much more user friendly than VLC. Just FYI. I expect to see some clips on your blog in the near future. :) Hey,

I just found out that Handbrake works on PC as well (http://handbrake.fr/?article=download). Use that instead. Much more user friendly than VLC.

Just FYI. I expect to see some clips on your blog in the near future. \':)\'

]]> By: Pete http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-3509 Pete Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:44:33 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=128#comment-3509 Interesting post! I didn't know storyboarding became so in depth that you'd be making acting decisions etc. Is that just because it's being sent overseas, or would it happen on site as well? It sounds very similar to animation planning, i.e. thumbnails and stuff only the drawings are better! Enjoying the blog! Interesting post! I didn’t know storyboarding became so in depth that you’d be making acting decisions etc. Is that just because it’s being sent overseas, or would it happen on site as well?

It sounds very similar to animation planning, i.e. thumbnails and stuff only the drawings are better!

Enjoying the blog!

]]> By: Karen J Lloyd http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-3477 Karen J Lloyd Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:55:46 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=128#comment-3477 Thanks for the help, I definitely check that out. :) K Thanks for the help, I definitely check that out. \':)\'
K

]]> By: Lorin http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/07/10/the-beat-when-silence-is-golden/comment-page-1/#comment-3427 Lorin Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:30:31 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=128#comment-3427 Thanks. Glad you liked it. If you have VLC player (which is free: http://www.videolan.org/vlc) you can rip the dvd then mess around with the raw footage in QT Pro. http://www.wikihow.com/Rip-DVDs-With-VLC Thanks. Glad you liked it.

If you have VLC player (which is free: http://www.videolan.org/vlc) you can rip the dvd then mess around with the raw footage in QT Pro.

http://www.wikihow.com/Rip-DVDs-With-VLC

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