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		<title>By: Karen J Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/08/04/whats-wrong-with-your-storyboards/comment-page-1/#comment-41660</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen J Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Lisa! Glad to have you and glad you found me. And hey, you&#039;re in Vancouver! Your work has a really nice style.

If you ever have any questions, just let me know.

I&#039;ll look forward to your return. :)

K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Lisa! Glad to have you and glad you found me. And hey, you&#8217;re in Vancouver! Your work has a really nice style.</p>
<p>If you ever have any questions, just let me know.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll look forward to your return. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lisa wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fantastic set of posts. What  a great blog. Wish I&#039;d know about it before I made my first animated short.  I&#039;ll be returning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fantastic set of posts. What  a great blog. Wish I&#8217;d know about it before I made my first animated short.  I&#8217;ll be returning!</p>
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		<title>By: Film Directing Tips &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What’s wrong with your storyboards? Karen Lloyd gives you tips on how to improve your storyboards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Film Directing Tips &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What’s wrong with your storyboards? Karen Lloyd gives you tips on how to improve your storyboards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karen J Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/08/04/whats-wrong-with-your-storyboards/comment-page-1/#comment-4219</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen J Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dan,

Glad to hear you took a fun vacation...hmm...but I thought you didn&#039;t *like* taking vacations.... ;) See how good they are? Keep &#039;em up!

Will probably be updating those reference sheets in the near future. Still like that title though. Might have to keep it. :)
K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dan,</p>
<p>Glad to hear you took a fun vacation&#8230;hmm&#8230;but I thought you didn&#8217;t *like* taking vacations&#8230;. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif\' alt=\';)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' />  See how good they are? Keep &#8216;em up!</p>
<p>Will probably be updating those reference sheets in the near future. Still like that title though. Might have to keep it. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /><br />
K</p>
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		<title>By: Dan S</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/08/04/whats-wrong-with-your-storyboards/comment-page-1/#comment-4216</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Karen,

Guess i&#039;ve been missing for your last post, i took a little vacation myself to Disney world and universal studios in Florida for a week so....
haha sorry not to brag, it was a good time though.

About your post, i remember you talking about all that back in class, i try and keep that all i mind when i do my own boards ( for fun in most cases) and i even have your little &quot; karen&#039;s super, oh-so-detailed storyboard reference sheets&quot; posted up on the side of my desk :)

About your last post, totally agree with the points there, and its funny since i hear that song at least once a day on the radio while i work, and its fairly catchy to say the least, i think if you have a solid story and it can relate to people in some sense, with well developed characters and somehow manage to combine well with good timing you have yourself a blockbuster right there.

Laughs rocket robin hood....check out the old sonic the hedgehog show too ( not so much for these points but for just being silly)

looking forward to your next post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Karen,</p>
<p>Guess i&#8217;ve been missing for your last post, i took a little vacation myself to Disney world and universal studios in Florida for a week so&#8230;.<br />
haha sorry not to brag, it was a good time though.</p>
<p>About your post, i remember you talking about all that back in class, i try and keep that all i mind when i do my own boards ( for fun in most cases) and i even have your little &#8221; karen&#8217;s super, oh-so-detailed storyboard reference sheets&#8221; posted up on the side of my desk <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /> </p>
<p>About your last post, totally agree with the points there, and its funny since i hear that song at least once a day on the radio while i work, and its fairly catchy to say the least, i think if you have a solid story and it can relate to people in some sense, with well developed characters and somehow manage to combine well with good timing you have yourself a blockbuster right there.</p>
<p>Laughs rocket robin hood&#8230;.check out the old sonic the hedgehog show too ( not so much for these points but for just being silly)</p>
<p>looking forward to your next post!</p>
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		<title>By: Karen J Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen J Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Boots

Yes, of course. *slaps herself in face* 
How silly of me. TV animation is ALWAYS about costs. Yesterday, today and forever more. ;)

But I think you know what I meant. If you guys had to hand paint KvK, you&#039;d be skimping WAY more than you had to now, don&#039;t ya think? 

Mind you, that high expectation of &#039;quality vs cost&#039; has gotten a little out of hand &lt;strong&gt;because &lt;/strong&gt;of computers. It&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;still&lt;/strong&gt; a crap load of work people!

(And yes, I will be doing the follow up. Thanks! :) )

@ Friar

Yes, of course. *slaps other side of face*

I realized the additional cuisine after I read your post. The grapes! How could I have forgotten the grapes??

That overlay and animation paid for itself over and over and over... :)
K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Boots</p>
<p>Yes, of course. *slaps herself in face*<br />
How silly of me. TV animation is ALWAYS about costs. Yesterday, today and forever more. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif\' alt=\';)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /> </p>
<p>But I think you know what I meant. If you guys had to hand paint KvK, you&#8217;d be skimping WAY more than you had to now, don&#8217;t ya think? </p>
<p>Mind you, that high expectation of &#8216;quality vs cost&#8217; has gotten a little out of hand <strong>because </strong>of computers. It&#8217;s <strong>still</strong> a crap load of work people!</p>
<p>(And yes, I will be doing the follow up. Thanks! <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' />  )</p>
<p>@ Friar</p>
<p>Yes, of course. *slaps other side of face*</p>
<p>I realized the additional cuisine after I read your post. The grapes! How could I have forgotten the grapes??</p>
<p>That overlay and animation paid for itself over and over and over&#8230; <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /><br />
K</p>
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		<title>By: Friar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Karen

It wasn&#039;t just chicken legs.

The rotation of Friar-Food included (not necessarily in this order)  sausage, grapes, apple, chicken leg...sausage, grapes, apple, chicken...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karen</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t just chicken legs.</p>
<p>The rotation of Friar-Food included (not necessarily in this order)  sausage, grapes, apple, chicken leg&#8230;sausage, grapes, apple, chicken&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Boots</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um... Karen? When did TV animation NOT become all about cost?

This is an important post. I hope all future board artists pay close attention to your follow-up series. (See: now you have to do it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230; Karen? When did TV animation NOT become all about cost?</p>
<p>This is an important post. I hope all future board artists pay close attention to your follow-up series. (See: now you have to do it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Karen J Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/08/04/whats-wrong-with-your-storyboards/comment-page-1/#comment-4178</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen J Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Friar

Yes, I think in the day of &#039;re-use everything we possibly can&#039; TV animation, continuity flew right out the window. It was all about cost and they did the best they could to get the thing done. Or they were just lazy asses. ;)

Modern painting techniques and Flash have helped. It&#039;s a crap load of work doing things all hand-drawn.

I always remember the Friar (ha!) eating about 100 chicken legs and the pile never went down. It bugged me as a kid. I&#039;ll be reading that post...haven&#039;t seen that one! :)

@ Lorin

The live-action directors who do it well and on purpose probably *knew* the rules well before &#039;breaking&#039; them. That&#039;s the difference. If you just never bother to learn them and do it in the name of &#039;art&#039;, well...give me a break. 

LEARN the rules before throwing them away, folks.

And yes, it doesn&#039;t fly in animation *because* every single shot is planned out and &#039;edited&#039; before the animation is done. So there should be no mistakes like that. Follow the rules because you can. Don&#039;t lose your audience.

And the &#039;artsy&#039; breaking of those rules *rarely* work well in an animated piece. My opinion. :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Friar</p>
<p>Yes, I think in the day of &#8216;re-use everything we possibly can&#8217; TV animation, continuity flew right out the window. It was all about cost and they did the best they could to get the thing done. Or they were just lazy asses. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif\' alt=\';)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /> </p>
<p>Modern painting techniques and Flash have helped. It&#8217;s a crap load of work doing things all hand-drawn.</p>
<p>I always remember the Friar (ha!) eating about 100 chicken legs and the pile never went down. It bugged me as a kid. I&#8217;ll be reading that post&#8230;haven&#8217;t seen that one! <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /> </p>
<p>@ Lorin</p>
<p>The live-action directors who do it well and on purpose probably *knew* the rules well before &#8216;breaking&#8217; them. That&#8217;s the difference. If you just never bother to learn them and do it in the name of &#8216;art&#8217;, well&#8230;give me a break. </p>
<p>LEARN the rules before throwing them away, folks.</p>
<p>And yes, it doesn&#8217;t fly in animation *because* every single shot is planned out and &#8216;edited&#8217; before the animation is done. So there should be no mistakes like that. Follow the rules because you can. Don&#8217;t lose your audience.</p>
<p>And the &#8216;artsy&#8217; breaking of those rules *rarely* work well in an animated piece. My opinion. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /> </p>
<p>K</p>
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		<title>By: Lorin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I agree with pretty much everything you mention specifically from a live-action stand-point. If it&#039;s the intent of the story and filmmaker (and there are only a few who can successfully pull this off, in this viewer&#039;s opinion) to manipulate the audience by tossing out the established rules of visual storytelling, then cool. One more tool at your disposal. 

On the other hand, I have also seen many-a-flick where everything was put together by someone having a seizure (ie: any given Rob Cohen film...just my opinion). Fortunately, most cartoons are aware of this; I assume because the format is less forgiving of such obvious disregard to the guidelines. That and you have to draw everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I agree with pretty much everything you mention specifically from a live-action stand-point. If it&#8217;s the intent of the story and filmmaker (and there are only a few who can successfully pull this off, in this viewer&#8217;s opinion) to manipulate the audience by tossing out the established rules of visual storytelling, then cool. One more tool at your disposal. </p>
<p>On the other hand, I have also seen many-a-flick where everything was put together by someone having a seizure (ie: any given Rob Cohen film&#8230;just my opinion). Fortunately, most cartoons are aware of this; I assume because the format is less forgiving of such obvious disregard to the guidelines. That and you have to draw everything.</p>
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