Comments on: Some Non-Hell Week Links http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/ Visual Storytelling Insights, Tips and Advice for Anyone Who\'s Interested Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:58:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Karen J Lloyd http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/comment-page-1/#comment-6593 Karen J Lloyd Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:54:38 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=498#comment-6593 Thanks for the update Jaden. Wow, that stinks (and sounds familiar!). It's really too bad for the people who are doing it for the love of the band or the project (like you). Like I said about the Aniboom thing, the only people who really 'win' in these things are the folks running it and the 'prize' people who are getting a video concept for basically nothing. Only seem to happen in creative fields, huh? *sigh* K Thanks for the update Jaden.
Wow, that stinks (and sounds familiar!). It’s really too bad for the people who are doing it for the love of the band or the project (like you).

Like I said about the Aniboom thing, the only people who really ‘win’ in these things are the folks running it and the ‘prize’ people who are getting a video concept for basically nothing.

Only seem to happen in creative fields, huh?
*sigh*
K

]]> By: screenwritingforhollywood http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/comment-page-1/#comment-6585 screenwritingforhollywood Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:05:34 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=498#comment-6585 Hi Karen, I just wanted to give you the update on that competition... They changed their deciding deadline of the top 5, adding 2 more weeks! That's the second change of a major deadline in their competition. People are also starting to get nasty and leave unnecessarily rude comments that you can't delete. People who have high tech equipment, ie money, and submitted full videos, as opposed to storyboards, are -- like in Aniboom -- moving to the winning front. Disappointing. Similar problems. Hi Karen,
I just wanted to give you the update on that competition… They changed their deciding deadline of the top 5, adding 2 more weeks! That’s the second change of a major deadline in their competition. People are also starting to get nasty and leave unnecessarily rude comments that you can’t delete. People who have high tech equipment, ie money, and submitted full videos, as opposed to storyboards, are — like in Aniboom — moving to the winning front. Disappointing. Similar problems.

]]> By: Karen J Lloyd http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/comment-page-1/#comment-6341 Karen J Lloyd Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:56:50 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=498#comment-6341 @ Screenwriting - Entering contests is a personal thing. If someone feels the potential outcome of it is worth it to them, then go for it. You like that band and have a vision for the video, so why not, if that's what you want to do. Hope you kick ass. :) @ Kasana - Thanks. Glad you liked them. :) K @ Screenwriting – Entering contests is a personal thing. If someone feels the potential outcome of it is worth it to them, then go for it. You like that band and have a vision for the video, so why not, if that’s what you want to do. Hope you kick ass. \':)\'

@ Kasana – Thanks. Glad you liked them. \':)\'
K

]]> By: kasana http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/comment-page-1/#comment-6327 kasana Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:15:20 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=498#comment-6327 Thanks karen for the links ... Enough food for this week. And I wish very often you shouldn't get time to write..So tht we get such post too. Thanks karen for the links … Enough food for this week.
And I wish very often you shouldn’t get time to write..So tht we get such post too.

]]> By: screenwritingforhollywood http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/comment-page-1/#comment-6318 screenwritingforhollywood Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:09:25 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=498#comment-6318 Thanks Karen. Yeah, it seems Massify has several glitches still. It is new. The storyboards take a little bit to load, so just open the page, and go do something else, then come back. Yes, I dislike and distrust contests as well, as they are mostly bogus, fixed, or bunk. This one is definitely to get attention for the band and for the Massify website, no doubt, but it looks pretty legit. One can only tell as we watch it unfold. 2 more days until the top 5 are selected! We shall see. There are not very many entries and they are not that good. This is supposed to be more about vision/concept than drawing talent, or I sure would not have entered my stick figures. Like your Aniboom fiasco, there is room for true storyboard artists to be irritated, as in this contest, they do not specify storyboard guidelines either; I have seen some submissions that are way off the mark, like collages of actors photos?! In a few days, we shall see what the "professionals" choose. Kay Nender: "It doesn’t matter how good an animator is. If he didn’t work with a writer, or spend as much time studying good writing as he did studying animation, he will bore everyone to death!" I have seen this problem at the Massify contest -- amazing storyboard artists with very boring ideas. That garage video that won on Aniboom is terribly boring tho too. Rowdower: "when aniboom decided it would be a great idea to forgo their earlier deadlines and begin the contest a week before it was scheduled" Massify also changed its deadline, extended another 20 days. There were zero good entries by that point. Now there are some ok entries, but nothing even close to the fine quality submitted in that Radiohead competition. Personally, I don't have the time, money, or skills to make anything like those in the Aniboom competition. Also, this band is relatively unknown compared to Radiohead. ....we shall see. Thanks Karen. Yeah, it seems Massify has several glitches still. It is new. The storyboards take a little bit to load, so just open the page, and go do something else, then come back.

Yes, I dislike and distrust contests as well, as they are mostly bogus, fixed, or bunk. This one is definitely to get attention for the band and for the Massify website, no doubt, but it looks pretty legit. One can only tell as we watch it unfold. 2 more days until the top 5 are selected! We shall see. There are not very many entries and they are not that good.

This is supposed to be more about vision/concept than drawing talent, or I sure would not have entered my stick figures.

Like your Aniboom fiasco, there is room for true storyboard artists to be irritated, as in this contest, they do not specify storyboard guidelines either; I have seen some submissions that are way off the mark, like collages of actors photos?! In a few days, we shall see what the “professionals” choose.

Kay Nender: “It doesn’t matter how good an animator is. If he didn’t work with a writer, or spend as much time studying good writing as he did studying animation, he will bore everyone to death!”

I have seen this problem at the Massify contest — amazing storyboard artists with very boring ideas. That garage video that won on Aniboom is terribly boring tho too.

Rowdower: “when aniboom decided it would be a great idea to forgo their earlier deadlines and begin the contest a week before it was scheduled”

Massify also changed its deadline, extended another 20 days. There were zero good entries by that point.

Now there are some ok entries, but nothing even close to the fine quality submitted in that Radiohead competition. Personally, I don’t have the time, money, or skills to make anything like those in the Aniboom competition. Also, this band is relatively unknown compared to Radiohead. ….we shall see.

]]> By: Karen J Lloyd http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/comment-page-1/#comment-6315 Karen J Lloyd Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:07:47 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=498#comment-6315 @ Steph - I gave it a little tweak. Hope that's better. Animation Mentor isn't really a blog, it's a site for the online school. More for the animation types reading. ("Scully"...I'm having flashbacks to the 90's. Yay!) @ Friar - Actually I'm still trying to figure that out myself. I'm not happy with the way I'm doing it. I haven't done the Photoshop thing for a while but I'll get back to you on that one. :) @ Brett - 'Pinky & the Brain' was a good one. I don't watch much TV animation anymore (occupational hazard). And you're too kind. I still think the drawings suck, of course (another occupational hazard). ;) @ Alex - No, thank YOU. I love all your faves too. I can see you've caught the Pixar bug (and Brad Bird bug). Thanks for those links! @ Screenwriting - Thank you too. I went over there but had some problems viewing it. But it was late (brain not working). I'll try again. After my <a href="http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/05/10/why-i-dont-participate-in-contests/" rel="nofollow">Aniboom fiasco</a>, I'm very leary of recommending contests now. But go vote for Jaden folks! K @ Steph – I gave it a little tweak. Hope that’s better. Animation Mentor isn’t really a blog, it’s a site for the online school. More for the animation types reading. (“Scully”…I’m having flashbacks to the 90’s. Yay!)

@ Friar – Actually I’m still trying to figure that out myself. I’m not happy with the way I’m doing it. I haven’t done the Photoshop thing for a while but I’ll get back to you on that one. \':)\'

@ Brett – ‘Pinky & the Brain’ was a good one. I don’t watch much TV animation anymore (occupational hazard). And you’re too kind. I still think the drawings suck, of course (another occupational hazard). \';)\'

@ Alex – No, thank YOU. I love all your faves too. I can see you’ve caught the Pixar bug (and Brad Bird bug). Thanks for those links!

@ Screenwriting – Thank you too. I went over there but had some problems viewing it. But it was late (brain not working). I’ll try again. After my Aniboom fiasco, I’m very leary of recommending contests now. But go vote for Jaden folks!

K

]]> By: steph http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/comment-page-1/#comment-6311 steph Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:26:50 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=498#comment-6311 Hey Scully! Thanks for the link and the mini plug here! Awesome. And I'm so glad I sparked an idea for you. I look forward to that post! I hope this isn't icky to do but I just wanted to add that EQ isn't just for novelists. I do short stories, blog posts, ezine material, journal and mag articles, gaming copy, any fantasy writing, pretty much! But for more details, they can always check the pages and the first blog post. PS. I totally love that I know everyone you linked, except one. :) I'll check him out! Hey Scully!

Thanks for the link and the mini plug here! Awesome. And I’m so glad I sparked an idea for you. I look forward to that post!

I hope this isn’t icky to do but I just wanted to add that EQ isn’t just for novelists. I do short stories, blog posts, ezine material, journal and mag articles, gaming copy, any fantasy writing, pretty much! But for more details, they can always check the pages and the first blog post.

PS. I totally love that I know everyone you linked, except one. \':)\' I’ll check him out!

]]> By: Friar http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/comment-page-1/#comment-6310 Friar Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:14:31 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=498#comment-6310 @Karen Technical question. How do you make the grey shades in your cartoons (Like you did with "Life's Not Fair")? PS. I think you're a natural-born cartoonist! @Karen

Technical question. How do you make the grey shades in your cartoons (Like you did with “Life’s Not Fair”)?

PS. I think you’re a natural-born cartoonist!

]]> By: Brett Legree http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/comment-page-1/#comment-6308 Brett Legree Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:40:09 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=498#comment-6308 Why, it's part of your plan to take over the world, of course (I love Pinky & The Brain). Thanks again for the awesome drawing and for the pingback here - you're one heck of an artist! -Brett Why, it’s part of your plan to take over the world, of course (I love Pinky & The Brain).

Thanks again for the awesome drawing and for the pingback here – you’re one heck of an artist!

-Brett

]]> By: Alex Fayle | Someday Syndrome http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2008/10/01/some-non-hell-week-links/comment-page-1/#comment-6306 Alex Fayle | Someday Syndrome Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:15:51 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=498#comment-6306 Hey Karen - thanks for the shout-out! I look forward to seeing your reviews. My favourite animated movies are Iron Giant, Lilo & Stitch, Finding Nemo, the Incredibles and WALL-E. As for animated shorts I remember from Xmases past the most beautiful animated versions of: The Selfish Giant - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBWURy1surI The Little Mermaid (done so much better than Disney's icky version) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntM0RipzEI8 The Happy Prince (I would always bawl my eyes out with this one): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI92hDyI2HY Hey Karen – thanks for the shout-out!

I look forward to seeing your reviews. My favourite animated movies are Iron Giant, Lilo & Stitch, Finding Nemo, the Incredibles and WALL-E.

As for animated shorts I remember from Xmases past the most beautiful animated versions of:

The Selfish Giant – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBWURy1surI
The Little Mermaid (done so much better than Disney’s icky version) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntM0RipzEI8
The Happy Prince (I would always bawl my eyes out with this one): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI92hDyI2HY

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