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	<title>Comments on: The Extreme Close-Up: Dissecting Wall-E</title>
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		<title>By: Debi</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/01/08/extreme-close-up-wall-e/comment-page-1/#comment-14422</link>
		<dc:creator>Debi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So happy that it was helpful!  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So happy that it was helpful!  <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif\' alt=\':D\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Shot Tells the Story: The Wall-E Wrap Up &#124; Karen J Lloyd\'s Storyboard Blog</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/01/08/extreme-close-up-wall-e/comment-page-1/#comment-14408</link>
		<dc:creator>The Shot Tells the Story: The Wall-E Wrap Up &#124; Karen J Lloyd\'s Storyboard Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] need to see this and only this.&#8221; Then, zoom! Right in for an Extreme Close-Up of the little box and the sparkling diamond ring. It&#8217;s a nice break from the wider shots and [...]</description>
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<p>[...] need to see this and only this.&#8221; Then, zoom! Right in for an Extreme Close-Up of the little box and the sparkling diamond ring. It&#8217;s a nice break from the wider shots and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karen J Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/01/08/extreme-close-up-wall-e/comment-page-1/#comment-14356</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen J Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that link Debi!

Some of what he talks about was very timely for me. And validated some &#039;stuff&#039; for me more than you know. 

So thanks! :)
K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link Debi!</p>
<p>Some of what he talks about was very timely for me. And validated some &#8216;stuff&#8217; for me more than you know. </p>
<p>So thanks! <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /><br />
K</p>
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		<title>By: Debi</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/01/08/extreme-close-up-wall-e/comment-page-1/#comment-14144</link>
		<dc:creator>Debi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and info as always Karen!

I don&#039;t know if anyone has posted this article yet or not, but it is about the storyboards of Wall-E
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wall_e/news/1741889/exclusive_the_storyboards_of_wall_e

Very interesting stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and info as always Karen!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone has posted this article yet or not, but it is about the storyboards of Wall-E<br />
<a href="http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wall_e/news/1741889/exclusive_the_storyboards_of_wall_e" rel="nofollow">http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wall_e/news/1741889/exclusive_the_storyboards_of_wall_e</a></p>
<p>Very interesting stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen J Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/01/08/extreme-close-up-wall-e/comment-page-1/#comment-13910</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen J Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi coffeedrinker and welcome!

I hope to write it tonight or tomorrow and have it up before the weekend. It would have been up by now but I&#039;m being strangled by a deadline within a deadline right now!

Damn this &quot;work&quot; thing.

But thanks so much for wanting it! I *will* do it though. :)
K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi coffeedrinker and welcome!</p>
<p>I hope to write it tonight or tomorrow and have it up before the weekend. It would have been up by now but I&#8217;m being strangled by a deadline within a deadline right now!</p>
<p>Damn this &#8220;work&#8221; thing.</p>
<p>But thanks so much for wanting it! I *will* do it though. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /><br />
K</p>
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		<title>By: coffeedrinker</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/01/08/extreme-close-up-wall-e/comment-page-1/#comment-13901</link>
		<dc:creator>coffeedrinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love this blog and want to use it to teach storyboards to my students - when will your last post be up? (the one that you said you might do, stringing along storyboards)

thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love this blog and want to use it to teach storyboards to my students &#8211; when will your last post be up? (the one that you said you might do, stringing along storyboards)</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Karen J Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/01/08/extreme-close-up-wall-e/comment-page-1/#comment-13813</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen J Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indoobidibly! :)
K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indoobidibly! <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /><br />
K</p>
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		<title>By: t.sterling</title>
		<link>http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/01/08/extreme-close-up-wall-e/comment-page-1/#comment-13785</link>
		<dc:creator>t.sterling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I shouldn&#039;t find it too surprsing but I found several metal sporks on Amazon!  So I&#039;ll buy one (or more) some day, and perhaps pens, sporks and my insatiable love of breakfast foods will the be icons of what is &quot;Indoob!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I shouldn&#8217;t find it too surprsing but I found several metal sporks on Amazon!  So I&#8217;ll buy one (or more) some day, and perhaps pens, sporks and my insatiable love of breakfast foods will the be icons of what is &#8220;Indoob!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Karen J Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen J Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ T - I am very blob-like right now. Occupational hazard. Yay for your DVD and I hope you get that stainless steal spork someday! You deserve it. :)

@ Level_Head - I see what you&#039;re saying about the overlay thing. But it&#039;s still just a POV and that&#039;s the *reason* they used them in those instances. So that we&#039;d see both elements. Another very useful tool.

And as far as up shots and down shots, they aren&#039;t separate shots really. It is another element - the camera angle - that you add to &lt;strong&gt;any&lt;/strong&gt; of these shots I&#039;ve talked about in this series.

So you can see how adding camera angles and movement can start to really give even &lt;strong&gt;more&lt;/strong&gt; variation to your choices! Because camera angles also help &#039;tell the story&#039;. 

Good material for future posts. :)
K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ T &#8211; I am very blob-like right now. Occupational hazard. Yay for your DVD and I hope you get that stainless steal spork someday! You deserve it. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /> </p>
<p>@ Level_Head &#8211; I see what you&#8217;re saying about the overlay thing. But it&#8217;s still just a POV and that&#8217;s the *reason* they used them in those instances. So that we&#8217;d see both elements. Another very useful tool.</p>
<p>And as far as up shots and down shots, they aren&#8217;t separate shots really. It is another element &#8211; the camera angle &#8211; that you add to <strong>any</strong> of these shots I&#8217;ve talked about in this series.</p>
<p>So you can see how adding camera angles and movement can start to really give even <strong>more</strong> variation to your choices! Because camera angles also help &#8216;tell the story&#8217;. </p>
<p>Good material for future posts. <img src=\'http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif\' alt=\':)\' class=\'wp-smiley\' /><br />
K</p>
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		<title>By: Level_Head</title>
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		<dc:creator>Level_Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d enjoy seeing your commentary on POV shots.  They were used to good effect in the film.  It still seems to me that there is some intended &quot;audience read&quot; difference between picking up from the view that you&#039;re looking through a character&#039;s eyes, and being expected to get information from the overlay part of the view.  

In M-O&#039;s case, for example, we see not just that we&#039;re looking through his eyes, but we are expected to note from the overlay itself that Eve is 16% contaminated, and Wall•E 100%.  We wouldn&#039;t know what characters to attach these numbers to if we were not simultaneously reading both the overlay and the view through it.

In other cases, all we care about is that we&#039;re seeing a view through the character&#039;s eyes -- such as Auto&#039;s red-tinted view looking for the captain hiding in his quarters.  That&#039;s a simple POV shot, it seems to me, in that instance constructed with both the red filter and a bit of fisheye-lens effect.

Oho!  Even WALL•E has a Vaseline-on-the-lens shot!  Using &quot;virtual Vasoline&quot; of course.

As to the other two you mentioned -- those would be interesting writeups as well, though I think I have the upshot. ];-)

The distinction between wide shot and up/down shots seems that it might be blurry at times.  In this film, for example, there is a scene looking out from the bridge of the Axiom down toward the Lido deck, and you can see Eve as a white speck racing across the area disappearing below the window.

Is that a &quot;down shot&quot;?  A &quot;wide shot&quot;?  It&#039;s aiming about 50 degrees down from horizontal.  

I look forward to your writings; no doubt I&#039;ll get a different angle.

===&#124;==============/ Level Head</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d enjoy seeing your commentary on POV shots.  They were used to good effect in the film.  It still seems to me that there is some intended &#8220;audience read&#8221; difference between picking up from the view that you&#8217;re looking through a character&#8217;s eyes, and being expected to get information from the overlay part of the view.  </p>
<p>In M-O&#8217;s case, for example, we see not just that we&#8217;re looking through his eyes, but we are expected to note from the overlay itself that Eve is 16% contaminated, and Wall•E 100%.  We wouldn&#8217;t know what characters to attach these numbers to if we were not simultaneously reading both the overlay and the view through it.</p>
<p>In other cases, all we care about is that we&#8217;re seeing a view through the character&#8217;s eyes &#8212; such as Auto&#8217;s red-tinted view looking for the captain hiding in his quarters.  That&#8217;s a simple POV shot, it seems to me, in that instance constructed with both the red filter and a bit of fisheye-lens effect.</p>
<p>Oho!  Even WALL•E has a Vaseline-on-the-lens shot!  Using &#8220;virtual Vasoline&#8221; of course.</p>
<p>As to the other two you mentioned &#8212; those would be interesting writeups as well, though I think I have the upshot. ];-)</p>
<p>The distinction between wide shot and up/down shots seems that it might be blurry at times.  In this film, for example, there is a scene looking out from the bridge of the Axiom down toward the Lido deck, and you can see Eve as a white speck racing across the area disappearing below the window.</p>
<p>Is that a &#8220;down shot&#8221;?  A &#8220;wide shot&#8221;?  It&#8217;s aiming about 50 degrees down from horizontal.  </p>
<p>I look forward to your writings; no doubt I&#8217;ll get a different angle.</p>
<p>===|==============/ Level Head</p>
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