Comments on: One Artist’s Process: The Board and The Critique Continued http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/08/09/artist-process-critique-2/ Visual Storytelling Insights, Tips and Advice for Anyone Who\'s Interested Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:16:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: One Artist’s Process: The Revisions | Karen J Lloyd\'s Storyboard Blog http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/08/09/artist-process-critique-2/comment-page-1/#comment-41130 One Artist’s Process: The Revisions | Karen J Lloyd\'s Storyboard Blog Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:10:25 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=2048#comment-41130 [...] Which can be found at the intro post, the brainstorming and thumbnails, the first pass storyboards and my feedback of them as part one here and part two here. [...]

[...] Which can be found at the intro post, the brainstorming and thumbnails, the first pass storyboards and my feedback of them as part one here and part two here. [...]

]]> By: kasana http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/08/09/artist-process-critique-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37266 kasana Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:58:03 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=2048#comment-37266 Oh! Really. You thinks so ? Good for me. Oh! Really. You thinks so ? Good for me.

]]> By: Karen J Lloyd http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/08/09/artist-process-critique-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37265 Karen J Lloyd Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:08:09 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=2048#comment-37265 @ Aidan - Maybe in the revision post, I'll give a few suggestions. :) @ Kasana - I guess I could have said more about the "why" of the changes. Sorry about that! I'll try to talk about that more in the next post with Aidan's revisions too. And your ingleesh isn't *that* bed. ;) K @ Aidan – Maybe in the revision post, I’ll give a few suggestions. \':)\'

@ Kasana – I guess I could have said more about the “why” of the changes. Sorry about that! I’ll try to talk about that more in the next post with Aidan’s revisions too.

And your ingleesh isn’t *that* bed. \';)\'

K

]]> By: kasana http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/08/09/artist-process-critique-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37220 kasana Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:28:45 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=2048#comment-37220 Another ' WOW!' I got lot stuff to incorporate. Thanks a lot karen. I don't know if I make sense but with corrections if you can reason it out then it would be just great. cause now I feel that I know what to do..but don't know why to do/change. If I doesn't make sense...you can leave it with Huh! pose. ;) And one thing I must other than your SB tips n tricks. your way of saying things is very good. I'm trying to learn this too but my INGLEESH is BED :( Another ‘ WOW!’
I got lot stuff to incorporate. Thanks a lot karen.
I don’t know if I make sense but with corrections if you can reason it out then it would be just great. cause now I feel that I know what to do..but don’t know why to do/change.
If I doesn’t make sense…you can leave it with Huh! pose. \';)\'
And one thing I must other than your SB tips n tricks. your way of saying things is very good.
I’m trying to learn this too but my INGLEESH is BED \':(\'

]]> By: Aidan Casserly http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/08/09/artist-process-critique-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37180 Aidan Casserly Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:06:55 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=2048#comment-37180 Go for it! Go for it!

]]> By: Karen J Lloyd http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/08/09/artist-process-critique-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37116 Karen J Lloyd Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:35:42 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=2048#comment-37116 @ Aidan - Well, if it makes you feel any better...when I was teaching, a whole whack of students always spelled my last name wrong in the credits of their final film. I think it was revenge. ;) And I do want to add that if part of the criteria of the critique was to keep it under 45 panels, then I would have done more hacking. I was just trying to make it work. We can always find ways to trim. *snip snip* @ Chris - When you work on TV productions, that 'language thing' gets drilled into you (along with never using brand names to avoid lawsuits!). But you're right about Pixar. They usually don't just rely on dialogue for a gag. We *see* it. That's how it should be. And you can see what I just mentioned about length to Aidan. Better to get it working first, then trim. And really, that "15 page rule" for a portfolio was really more taking into account of grabbing a section from a much larger storyboard for your portfolio. Not so much in creating one from scratch. But that is a good point you brought up. You don't want it too long for the portfolio, either way. Like I said, I could still dig in to Aidan's board and slice and dice it a bit. ;) K @ Aidan – Well, if it makes you feel any better…when I was teaching, a whole whack of students always spelled my last name wrong in the credits of their final film.

I think it was revenge. \';)\'

And I do want to add that if part of the criteria of the critique was to keep it under 45 panels, then I would have done more hacking. I was just trying to make it work. We can always find ways to trim. *snip snip*

@ Chris – When you work on TV productions, that ‘language thing’ gets drilled into you (along with never using brand names to avoid lawsuits!). But you’re right about Pixar. They usually don’t just rely on dialogue for a gag. We *see* it. That’s how it should be.

And you can see what I just mentioned about length to Aidan. Better to get it working first, then trim. And really, that “15 page rule” for a portfolio was really more taking into account of grabbing a section from a much larger storyboard for your portfolio. Not so much in creating one from scratch.

But that is a good point you brought up. You don’t want it too long for the portfolio, either way. Like I said, I could still dig in to Aidan’s board and slice and dice it a bit. \';)\'

K

]]> By: Chris K. http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/08/09/artist-process-critique-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37114 Chris K. Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:11:42 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=2048#comment-37114 Some very interesting considerations brought up here about trying to shy away from using actual words. The idea that the in-progress and finished product may be seen by an international audience was something i would not have thought of. Works well to practice those visual acting skills that Pixar is so great at-- such long sequences without a word and still able to be a tear jerker/knee slapper~ O that challenge for panel 4 :P i personally really like the zipping sound effect idear!! Question concerning length: it seems like there would be a significant amount of boards added in the form of reaction shots and hook-up clarification. Not sure if Aidan's revisions will exceed the number-- but in order to have a more succinct story segment, would it be better to ignore the "less than 15 page" for a storyboard portfolio 'rule'? Some very interesting considerations brought up here about trying to shy away from using actual words. The idea that the in-progress and finished product may be seen by an international audience was something i would not have thought of. Works well to practice those visual acting skills that Pixar is so great at– such long sequences without a word and still able to be a tear jerker/knee slapper~

O that challenge for panel 4 \':P\' i personally really like the zipping sound effect idear!!

Question concerning length: it seems like there would be a significant amount of boards added in the form of reaction shots and hook-up clarification. Not sure if Aidan’s revisions will exceed the number– but in order to have a more succinct story segment, would it be better to ignore the “less than 15 page” for a storyboard portfolio ‘rule’?

]]> By: Aidan Casserly http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/2009/08/09/artist-process-critique-2/comment-page-1/#comment-37096 Aidan Casserly Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:15:38 +0000 http://karenjlloyd.com/blog/?p=2048#comment-37096 ...but if Karen ever decides to get personal, you'll know it! (Any storyboard artists out there want to participate in a Roast of Karen J Lloyd?). Seriously, as I stated in the previous afterword, don't be afraid to ask for advice. The short, dull ending here was made because I wanted the keep the overall board short and sweet...but, c'mon, this ending sucks! Wait 'til you all see what I've done in the revision! I'm definitely going to use Karen's services again, and for all of you out there in Storyboard Land, I openly invite you to give it a try. And remember, Karen's not the only one who can nitpick and jab; if you guys have thoughts as to how to make this board better, throw it out there! That's what the comments section is for, right? My next portfolio board is going to be Something Completely Different ("It's..."), so wish me luck as I take on boarding a drama, action sequence, car chase, dog food commercial or a sock puppet version of Rocky Horror or whatever. …but if Karen ever decides to get personal, you’ll know it! (Any storyboard artists out there want to participate in a Roast of Karen J Lloyd?).

Seriously, as I stated in the previous afterword, don’t be afraid to ask for advice. The short, dull ending here was made because I wanted the keep the overall board short and sweet…but, c’mon, this ending sucks! Wait ’til you all see what I’ve done in the revision!

I’m definitely going to use Karen’s services again, and for all of you out there in Storyboard Land, I openly invite you to give it a try. And remember, Karen’s not the only one who can nitpick and jab; if you guys have thoughts as to how to make this board better, throw it out there! That’s what the comments section is for, right?

My next portfolio board is going to be Something Completely Different (“It’s…”), so wish me luck as I take on boarding a drama, action sequence, car chase, dog food commercial or a sock puppet version of Rocky Horror or whatever.

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